Screamer Patch - Preliminary Design

Hi All,
           Have a look at this, thanks to Ken Perrin who organised a graphic designer to help us with the Screamer Patch artwork.

The artwork is based on the first groups that qualified for a Screamer Patch, which came into effect at the Nationals this year, Stuart Pethybridge's group at the Nationals for Centrefire and Anthony Hall's Rimfire group at Batemans Bay in June.

Colours are based on the Rimfire and Centrefire colours that Batemans Bay and Canberra (off the top of my head) use for our Fly patches.

Any comments? This is just a preliminary design, the company that produces them will probably have some refinements around where the wording goes over the top of the bullet holes.



Cheers.


Dave.

nice work there ..i like it

Great idea Dave.

Dave
If the patch is the same size as a target (out to a 8 ring, 70cm).
I think is should be larger, as a standard fly patch is bigger than this in height.
A SCREAMER patch should stand out, at least 90 to 100cm or 4", as it a lot harder to get.
I don't think I will ever get one.
Max

Hi Max, thanks for the suggestion about size, I agree it needs to be different to the ordinary Fly patch, the Fly target we are basing the artwork on lends itself to a round patch, making it a bit bigger does help with differentiation.

I’m sure you’ll have a crack at earning one!

Cheers.

Dave

Hi All, here is another set of designs to consider.

If you could provide your preference in order of 1,2,3 that would be great to get an idea from the shooters. Top pair is number 1 for this purpose.

We might play with the colour of wording and background a little but you get the idea. Also intend to add 200y to RF and 500M to CF.

Dave.

Hello Dave      I think that the original round patches   of a reasonable size  would be my choice  
               but if it has to be a rectangular patch  then number 3  would be my choice
                    all I want to do is win one  

                  regards     john mc    

On the new patches.
2, 3, 1.
I prefer the rectangle to the circle. There are already a number if circle fly patches floating around. The rectangle is something different to all other fly patches. I think different is a good thi g for the screamer.

Thanks Fred, while the target does work on a round patch, we wanted something different to the V or round patch so that it stands out more. Making a round patch much larger was another option but I prefer the rectangle.

I agree John, I just want to qualify for one too.

Cheers

Dave

As much as I do appreciate Stuarts and Anthony's groups, I like the Southern Cross ones, so it would have to be:

2, 3, 1.


As for the wording for some reason the "1.250 & below" always looks and reads funny to me, I would think Sub 1.251" group,  sounds more "professional" .

Hi All,

Great work so far Dave, looking really good.

I like the suggestion of "Sub 1.251", and would probably like it to say "Sub 1.251 Group"  

I like 3 or 1, if there is to be a group on there, I like the historical reference of an actual shot group.  If its not going to be an acutal group, just put 5 shots touching right under the fly....

Cheers

Anthony

On the wording, I feel that when we have to say 1.251” it becomes very clinical.

I sugested “1.250 and Below” because it rhymed and was a little lighthearted, yes, this is my sport and I take the shooting and competing seriously but I still do it for enjoyment

Regarding the professional bit Pete, when I am responsible for organising a shoot I try my best to act professionally, that is what I see as my obligation to the shooters who have travelled from far and wide and paid the entry fee.

As far as the shooters are concerned, they should be most concerned about abiding by Rule 10 and enjoying themselves ... as long as it doesn’t disturb other shooters.

It was my idea to put real groups on the patch, barring that I would just go without a group representation at all rather than make something up.

These are just my personal thoughts of course.

Dave

Its always nice to do well and better yourself.  But! without a doubt, yes its all about the fun for Stella and I.

You know I have read that 1.250 & below several times now and never once did it dawn on me it rhymed, What can I say, I'm getting old. Now that you have pointed that out It definitely  reads better.  Yes I understand your comment about 1.251 being to "clinical" I would have written "Sub 1.250 Group"  but of course that then rules out 1.250 groups.

As for the professionalism, although we have only been doing this for a short period of time, one of the reason we have enjoyed it so much is due to the way all the shoots have been run. I have had a little involvement  with the ones shot at the Bay in the last couple of years and I see all the hard work that Anthony and all the volunteers have put into it.  A well run event adds to the fun immensely and my hat comes off to all those involved at all the ranges.  

But the bottom line is, In all honesty & I'm probably not alone when I say this. It really doesn't matter much what it says or looks like,  I would just like to get one too.

Hi All, thanks to those that have given feedback and ideas for the Screamer Patch and particularly to Ken Perrin for getting the artwork side of things rolling. Ken has worked with his artist and they have come up with these two new versions, great work guys Comments please, another revision tomorrow changing the “&” to “and” Cheers. Dave.

i still like the round ones
but in the others i like, 3 (i just like bullet holes on there as that's what we do and not because they are mine) then 1 and then 2, as i find the south cross to be boganish these days haha
the last 2 you put up, it might be the colours but they look like they are out of the 70s haha but could grow on me

Another iteration. Thanks Ken. I really like this version, whatever we go with will have the “Screamer” bit in metallic thread hopefully.

nice work Ken
yeah i like those 2 Dave, but i still think they need bullet holes in them, but they look good

            Just to muddy the waters I reckon the 1st designs were the best but with the "Southern Cross"  pattern for the holes. I wouldn't care if they were stars or actual holes but the "Southern Cross" pattern is a direct & strong link to the fact this game is Australian.

            It probably wouldn't matter much but I think some thought could be given to changing the 1.25" or below to .25 MOA or below. This, after all is why the group size was chosen.  It is an interesting anomaly that shooters in Australia (myself included) still measure group sizes in inches despite the fact we adopted the metric system for measurements in the late 1980's.

             Anyway, good work Ken & Dave.

      PS:  A word of warning...if 35 years in the visual images industry has taught me anything it's that you should limit the number of options.....you'll never get consensus otherwise!!!

Hello Dave    the latest Version  of the Screamer patches is the one I like the most    but would like to see some holes  
           and like Bellie  said   the use of MOA  in our metric age  makes more sense to a lot of people
                    it has to be able to stand out when seen  
             I want one to go on my Fly Jacket      
                             John Mc

Unfortunately 0.25 MOA does not work.... as MOA is loosely known as  1" at 100 yards (actually 1.047" at 100 yards) so 0.25 MOA at 500 metres (546.8 yards) is actually 1.43"...  Yes sorry too much maths but you get the idea.

Inches are here to stay in the shooting world.... .308, .243, MOA as 1" at 100 yards etc are all well too ingrained to disappear in the net 20 years.  And they are still current in the USA etc.

I like the latest versions a lot....and agree that there needs to be bullet holes on them.

Cheers

Anthony