Wagga meeting HOF

Hi fly shooters there will be a meeting held on the Saturday night at Wagga SSAA range to discuss the HOF and also a motion by the ACT in relation to target specifications. I look forward to hearing your thoughts and as your delegate i will promote your motions at the end of the meeting to the National Chairman for Benchrest Shooting.

cheers see you all at Wagga.

I sent the below proposal a while ago to several people  involved in the administration of the fly and fly matches as well as the delegates that represent us all, and so far have had nothing but positive responses.  So here it is as presented.

I know that there has been significant discussion and in principal approval to get a Fly Hall Of Fame in place.  I have been looking at possible methods of point allocation and qualification criteria and have come up with the following proposal.
 
By way of introduction to this method, I note that the Short Range Benchrest HOF awards points for individual yardage as well as for multi gun, and the Hunter Class HOF allocates points independently to each class with no multi gun.  In Fly shooting, there has always been some conjecture about two gun, three gun, mixed details, aggregate v outright highest score, different days, centrefire pre nomination requirements etc etc.  The method I propose is simple and in my opinion negates any arguments on these matters and is in keeping with how fly has always been run.
 
I propose that there are three individual classes in fly, Heavy Gun, Light Gun and Rimfire.  If we simply allocate HOF points as 3,2,1 for the first three places in each class at a nationals, I believe it will work very well.  There will be no issues if Both Centrefire classes are run concurrently or independently, rimfire can be included or excluded according to numbers and the host range etc.
 
If we allow points only be to be earned at a Nationals event and commence from the first nationals (2012), and set the HOF entry requirement at 15 points, after 5 years of competition the table would stand with Tyson Trotter & Stuart Elliott at the top with only 9 points each, so nobody can argue that it is an easy achievement to enter the HOF, but I believe in the next few years we will see people start to enter the HOF under this method.  Rimfire has only been run once as a nationals, so the points distribution will increase over the next few years, it is tough but achievable.  While it will be a longer road if you only shoot one class, this does open the door to stand alone Light Gun, Heavy Gun or Rimfire shooters to make HOF points eventually.
 
It also stands that the very best any person can do in one year is 9 points if they win everything….so it is no easy task that way either.
 
I believe this is the fairest, easiest to administer and understand method of points allocation and it takes away any issues that arise with multiple classes and days.  It is also in keeping with the fact that they really are different classes and not all people choose to shoot every class, but they have the option to do so and there are more points up for grabs if they do.
 
Cheers

Anthony

Hi All,

Ann Brummell correctly pointed out that Hunter class does in fact have a four gun HOF award.  This does not change my submission in any way, we just need to correctly consider all the information.

Cheers,

Anthony

    Ummm,…Every thing Anthony has proposed seems fair and reasonable….I am wondering though, as I rapidly approach 60 years of age , that I might be a very old shooter indeed before there are  even 5 names on the ledger!

    I'm aware the short ranger's allocate HOF points from their national event only. I believe the Yanks do a similar thing. Are Fly Shooters therefore restricted to following their lead or can we create our own system?

    Given the obvious turn over that will occur with the attendees ( because of all the reasons shooters stop shooting ) it is even possible that not one shooter will ever earn enough points to enter the HOF…ever.

   Why don't we introduce more matches to qualify. An example of how this could work is for each State presently running registered matches ( 2 per year ) to nominate 1 of those matches for HOF qualification. This would allow qualifications from our Nationals, wherever they are held, and three other Staes.

   This would certainly , more quickly, get the HOF numbers up to a level that might actually mean something to the average shooter.

   Just a thought.

  Belly

Hi Belly,

Good thoughts.  I suspect that there are fairly strong feelings at SSAA National about only having HOF points accrue from a National Event, and it adds to the prestige of "Nationals", differentiating them from other shoots as well as encouraging people to travel (especially as they are now rotating).

Having said that, I am of the opinion that we as a discipline are "Fly".... not Short Range or Hunter Class or Silhouette etc.... so we are free to propose whatever system the majority of shooters want.

I think that there will be shooters enter HOF via my proposed method at National Events in the next few years.... if we are concerned that it might take too long, and get too few shooters, lower the qualification level to either 10 or 12 points (12 might be a good number).

Cheers

Anthony

Assuming we stay with the national only I think 10 points as is the requirement in short range would be challenging enough.  In short range with four classes only thirty something (last time I looked) have made it in almost fifty years.
Don